It seems that WASHINGTON, DC-native Rapper/Producer WALE and BROOKLYN, NY-native Actor/Comedian/Producer JERRY SEINFELD may have a lot more in common that anyone could possibly have imagined!!!
They have so much in common, that they share the December 2014 cover of COMPLEX.
Here are some highlights from their joint interview:
What’s tougher to deal with: Twitter hecklers or real-life hecklers on stage?
W: Are you familiar with Twitter hecklers?
JS: Oh, yeah.
Do you read your Twitter mentions and look at hate?
JS: Yeah. It has no substance for me. It’s like when somebody has a cigarette and they blow the smoke in your face. It’s going to be gone in two seconds. I don’t care. [Looks at Wale.] Oh, he’s upset. [Laughs.]
W: I handle it differently. It’s different!
JS: Why do you give these people meaning?
W: I don’t know, Jerry. I don’t know.
JS: You don’t have to! It’s your choice.
W: I try to rationalize with people. Like, “Why do you feel this way?”
JS: Who cares!?
W: I don’t know. Nine times out of 10, when I respond, I just want to find out what’s the root of it. Somebody says, “If I fuck with him, he’s gonna react.” What then? Did you win any money? Did your life become better? Why would you do that? Why is this entertaining to you? I just don’t understand why.
JS: Yeah, well I have a terrace at my apartment and it’s fantastic. You have to come see it sometime. Every time I go out on that terrace I think, Maybe I’ll jump. [Wale laughs.] Because if I jump, the list of things I don’t have to do is so long, the issues I don’t have to deal with. All I have to do is jump and everything is taken care of! Now, I don’t jump. But I don’t care to know why I want to jump. What’s the difference why? The mind is not that great.
W: I would love to know what makes [somebody] want to not be involved with what I’m doing. Maybe I’m vain. Maybe I’m crazy. We’re all a little bit crazy.
JS: Let me tell you why they don’t want to be involved with you. Let me tell you why they don’t like you. Every person has a different reason—and none of them have anything to do with you!
W: Aren’t I allowed to want to know why, though?
JS: No. No. Not in my world. You’re not allowed. You want to know why I want to jump off the terrace?
W: But you weren’t being serious.
JS: I am being serious.
W: You think about jumping off the terrace?
JS: Every time.
JS: I look over it and I think, I could do it. I could do it. I’m on the 19th floor. [Laughs.] All I got to do is jump.
W: You’re scaring us, Jerry.
JS: But there’s nothing there. There’s nothing there to explore, is my point. I’m not going to a shrink to find out why I want to jump off the terrace. That’s a waste of another hour!
W: [Laughs.] I don’t want you to think like that anymore, so maybe I’ll stop.
JS: You’ve wanted to, too.
W: Yeah, but I’m not as rich as you are.
JS: But you’ve been on terraces. You’ve been on roofs.
W: Yeah, I think about it sometimes.
JS: Why? Because the human brain is not as good as this: [Pulls out the iPhone 6.] That’s why. The human brain has bugs in it. It needs an update. A bug fix.
W: Our conversation about relationships with fans and breakdowns makes a lot more sense. I was telling you about the breakdowns. I asked you about your peace and quiet time. I was like, “What is this sorcery you speak of?”
JS: I found [peace].
W: I need to find it. Well, I found it recently. I accepted certain things. I did radio all day yesterday and I was like, “OK, I’m emotional. Can we get into the music now?”
JS: I bought a Buddha a couple days ago. In a snowglobe. Having Buddha around is good.
W: For the chakras. I’m learning about this energy thing. This album, some of the conversations, I just keep playing back in my head. The roller coaster of relationships. Sometimes I go through the dips, and I’m like, this is just a dip. It’ll be all right later.
JS: You’re always going to dip. Up and down. The whole thing. As long as you don’t fall in love with a stripper.
W: That’s half the rappers. We’re going to have to take you to Atlanta.
JS: I talk about it as if I could deal with it, but I wouldn’t be any different than you.
W: Well, I started young. I got exposed to strippers at a young age, so I can fight their sorcery.
JS: Right, that’s what it is. It’s sorcery.
W: All strip clubs in the South have chicken, macaroni and cheese, and fried fish.
When’s the last time you were in a strip club, Jerry?
JS: A bachelor party in the mid-’90s. I went reluctantly. You know, you go there and it’s just...you know.
W: It’s not all it’s cracked up to be sometimes.
JS: It’s exactly what it’s cracked up to be. It’s just not cracked up that high.
W: Well, Magic City is an experience.
JS: Is that in Atlanta? I don’t know what that is. But I know what girls are.
W: Yeah. Never say never. You have social gatherings at Magic City. Chicken socials and shit like that. You just go there with your friends. It’s different. I’ve done interviews at Magic City.
JS: I know what you’re saying. I understand chicken and naked women.
W: Can’t beat that.
JS: I’d actually rather just have the chicken. I can’t eat chicken and look at strippers at the same time.
W: It’s an acquired taste. Literally.
JS: How about oatmeal and strippers?
W: No, see that’s lumpy, creamy, weird, sticky.
JS: But a wing is a mess!
W: Not necessarily. When you have napkins and proper shit like that, it’s cool. Oatmeal is disgusting. Oatmeal and strippers. That’s repugnant.